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you guys are stupid. Just think about it. GT 5 will have seperate racing circuits just like they did in all other versions, licenses you have to obtain to get on certain tracks. It is easily expected that they are going to have a seperate nascar circiut that will include all of the races and the chase for the cup done right. This time the graphics will be better, damage better, and most importantly the driving will be extremly amazing. This is going to be the best racing game out their and because it is on blu-ray it will be huge and maybe even 2 to 3 discs. They have delayed the push to ensure it is right and make it big. what game do you know that they released a demo that would of actually sold as a full game. So you all need to actually think before you panic and bash a game. EA screwed up nascar games and that is why nascar sought the gt 5 developers.