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JOHNSON AND GORDON WOULD BE TIED IF NASCAR USED F1 SCORING SYSTEM

Posted 10/28/09 at 5:00 AM PDT by Dale Watermill | Email This |

I am following up on an Oct. 1 post that showed what the standings would look like if NASCAR used Formula 1’s point system. I have updated the numbers and, well, let’s just say they would make many fans very excited about the last four races of the season. All of the sudden Jimmie Johnson isn’t running away with the title. He’s locked neck-and-neck in a historic battle with his friend, teammate and owner Jeff Gordon. This is much closer than the current Sprint Cup standings, where Johnson and Gordon are separated by 150 points.

In my previous NASCAR/F1 scoring post, Tony Stewart and Mark Martin were ranked 1-2, but after a string of good runs, Johnson and Gordon have taken over those spots. Previously, Johnson was in fourth place, 10 points behind Stewart. Now he is four points ahead of Stewart.

In the F1 system, anybody within 40 points of the leader is within reach of the title. If they score four straight wins, they will get 40 points. So the entire top five, including Denny Hamlin, would still have a shot at the title. The good thing about this system is it doesn't punish you much for a bad race. Getting 43rd is no different than getting 23rd. It gives drivers a chance throughout the season as long as they have the ability to run up front.

As a result, I think this system would lead to more competitive driving up front, which would give the fans the type of aggressive and strong racing they really want to see. Everybody needs to race to the front to score.

Right now, the only way Johnson won’t win the title (in real points) is if he wrecks and someone can capitalize. There really isn't any way to catch up with him as long as he keeps getting top 10s.

The F1 system is not perfect for NASCAR. So let’s tinker. In a 43-driver field, having points go to the top eight seems extreme. What if we gave points to the top 15? That might be a fair compromise. Anything 16th or worse is worth one point, so at least drivers get credit for qualifying and competing. I would say DNFs get zero points, so there is some encouragement to stay out and race.

And the good news is you wouldn't need a Chase to reset the points. The Chase reset, statistically, is the same as throwing a "phantom debris caution" late in a race. Both artificially bring drivers back together to manufacture a more exciting finish. With a better points system, NASCAR would not need that.

(All Left Turns contributor Dale Watermill is the creator of the Watermill Score and the FLOPPER Award and edits the racing statistics blog 36 Races. E-mail him at 36races@gmail.com.)

Related links:
What if NASCAR used F1 points system?
Updated championship probability table: Johnson routing field
Winning in NASCAR is like counting cards
Chase bonus points are meaningless
Jimmie Johnson has most points at Chase tracks this season
The Watermill Score: How to win a Sprint Cup title
Replacing crew chiefs has not helped Dale Earnhardt Jr.

7 Comments

Anonymous (not verified)2 years ago

yet another 'if but' article. this is not F1 for a lot of reasons so this means absolutely nothing.

 
Joe Donatelli2 years ago

Maybe if there was an actual Chase to write about, we wouldn't have to resort to hypotheticals.

Anonymous (not verified)2 years ago

If you think the Na$car point system is bad the how could you like this you win 6 races and you are tied with someone who has 1 win. Go back to the old system and add 25 points for the win atleast the driver who wins the Championship will deserve it.

Anonymous (not verified)2 years ago

It's a great idea...but, NASCAR didn't think of it so it won't happen. Plus, everything is just peachy according to Brian.

Joe Donatelli2 years ago

I am totally biased, because I edit Dale's articles, but I think this is a great idea. Would love to hear reasoning from anyone who thinks otherwise.

Anonymous (not verified)2 years ago

only driver points for the top 15.

problem solved.

Faust2 years ago

So no matter how you slice it, Jimmie's on top and Jr's mired in the 20's... Oh well.

Like you said, the F1 scoring system isn't perfect either, but it sure works better. Still wish there was some kind of points incentive for winning poles too.

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